Automated forex trading – machine meets team

Automated Adam, Discretionary Team-trading Tom.

There are many types of traders on this earth. Regardless of whether you trade forex, futures, or equities, you understand one thing. Your success depends on your long term ability to determine accurately which securities to play in, how much you enter a position with, and when you enter and exit a position.

For automated system traders, the initial parameters of mixed oscillators and indicators can be a large determinant to how you perform even after you've optimized it. You understand the market can be bipolar and act completely irrational and work against your system when you least expect it. You make money from the market largely due to the statistical edge you've gained through proper back testing and scrutinizing the losses far more than your possible winnings. Even then, you realize that not all systems will be forever profitable for the lone reason that the market is essentially human and no mathematical model can accurately and fully describe human behavior.

If you are the discretionary trader, then you realize what the automated trader does but you also see patterns; some may even "feel" them. Profitable intuitive traders can "feel" the current of the market's waves much like a surfer "feels" the ocean's flow. Discretionary traders are also adept with support & resistance, chart patterns, candlestick patterns, Elliot wave theory, and Fibonacci points - on top of risk management theories and the usual list of indicators and oscillators.

Now. There is a third type of trader. One who can be one of the aforementioned types of traders on top of being a team player. This trader is capable of gauging support and resistance without needing to draw a line at all. This trader is capable of connecting to those which are better than them, those who are equal to them, and those who want to be as good as them. This ability to collaborate adds a "whole 'nother way of lookin' at the game." This trader realizes that this information resource is invaluable since they realize that they can see what most others cannot. They may have the insight of a discretionary trader or the discipline of a automated trader. However, with this new level of analysis, traders will have the ability to filter out their methods of trading with social indicators and can see the community bias on the balance of the market.

Years ago when I starting doing forex, since it was all new to me, I spent a lot of time just reading website after website looking for information and learning everything I could get my hands on. It was to the point that I woke up every morning and immediately starting thinking forex. I was not trading live yet, but I learned everything I could. This included risk management involving gambling theory, chart patterns, various indicators, and trading systems. I starting getting into it, digging myself a hole until I was buried. Why was I drawn to it so much? It was a few things: I liked how everything could be visual on graphs, the way money exchanges hands has mesmerized me since I was in elementary school, it involves technology, but most of all it involves people. People watch birds; I watch people. Not in a creepy way but to observe human social interactions and motivations. I think I've always been like this. So, when I had the chance to jump on board with Currensee, I was all over it.

This opportunity lets me see things in a completely new way. If I had to describe myself, I'd be mostly an automated trader. I like developing a mechanical means of reading the market where discipline is absolute and it can work for me non-stop. At Currensee, I'm a bit of all these types of people. I've taken it upon myself to beat my biggest weakness, discretionary trading and discipline. I've narrowed it down to the necessity for me to follow my rules and to learn from my mistakes. And, now, I'm teamed up with other people. I can trade real-time with them while messaging, posting and starting new discussions. I can even make strategies around them if I care to. I can also learn from traders who are better than me and teach traders who don't know as much as me. All while getting information on the community's trades and opinions on fundamental news and currency pairs.

If you asked me a few months ago if I thought I'd mix up my automated trading approach, my answer probably would have been "hell no." It works and why change something that's not broken. I've gotta say that team trading has opened up a whole bunch of new ideas and strategies for me. I've connected with people around the globe - people who trade differently than me. And I'm challenging myself by using several different approaches - something that's hard to do with a machine.

So, that's my take. I'm curious to know what you think. Is your trading style open to some team spirit?


Be sure to read the full risk disclosure before trading Forex.  Please note that Forex trading involves significant risk of loss. It is not suitable for all investors and you should make sure you understand the risks involved before trading. Performance, strategies and charts shown are not necessarily predictive of any particular result. And, as always, past performance is no indication of future results.

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Be sure to read the full risk disclosure before trading Forex. Please note that Forex trading involves significant risk of loss. It is not suitable for all investors and you should make sure you understand the risks involved before trading. Performance, strategies and charts shown are not necessarily predictive of any particular result. And, as always, past performance is no indication of future results. Investor returns may vary from Trade Leader returns based on slippage, fees, broker spreads, volatility or other market conditions.

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    @currenseedarren. Great post. I’m at the same place where you were; inundating myself with info and learning. I’ve managed to distill it so no “hole” buried thus far. I have significant modeling experience and have been able to classify the various “predictive” activities into sub-classes.

    I abandoned the study of artificial neural networking, fuzzy logic, genetic algorithms, basically AI… about 10 years ago, primarily due to time constraints! In the past year, I’ve revived this interest, deciding to focus on Trading. To this day, I’ve never executed a single equity, derivatives or Forex trade using my own funds, nor have ever had anyone manage a portfolio for me. My only experiences have been nearly 11 weeks of “paper” trading, and of course, I’m aware of the major caveats related to “paper” trading (slippage and emotional discipline). I’m nearly Spartan in discipline so not worried about the latter. I’ve also spent the past 8 months (a daily minimum of 3 hours, 7 days/week) looking at various systems only to conclude that most if not all retail trading knowledge recommendations and trading styles focus on technical, fundamental and sentimental analysis without any account of game theory. I am not sure, but I’ve heard that this is in sharp contrast to proprietary commercial automated trading systems (that are not available to the market for obvious reasons) that do take this into account.

    What do you recommend to someone like myself? Have you found FOREX trading to be profitable? And your automated trading, did you build your own? That is my inclination for many reasons.


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